scruffynerf wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 9:14 am
Atruepatriot wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 8:03 am
I like the capabilities and security of this protocol! But for myself there are a couple issues:
It uses peer node hops like others rather than true end to end transfers, and it appears to be another messaging and file sharing protocol rather than a network of website webpages like Gemin or Zeronet. I really would like to replace the internet with a secure underground internet of minimalistic light websites similar to the old days of usenet and rings rather than just messaging and file sharing. But my main aim is ease of installation and setup using off the shelf tools for the average boob user. It cannot be too techy and complicated or the interest will be extremely minimal and limited to prima-donna techy folks as a private good old boys club. It has to be a turnkey client install package like Lagrange/Geminispace and replace the internet with personal domains and websites to surf. Being limited to just messaging and file sharing can't do this.
Pick your poison. Everything has pluses and minuses. Reticulum can run on anything running python, for example. So write some scripts, and it's doable as one install away.
I think I need to explain the difference more clearly and maybe you will understand where I am coming from and why I am after a particular format.
A file messaging app/client environment is like facebook or Twitter. There ends up being separate private "groups/clicks" of followers. Where as a forum like ours here is primarily first and foremost a public square. Other than PM of course, everything posted here goes to everyone else here. It is more of an all inclusive community environment than the "social media" scripts are.
The social scripts of Facebook and Twitter are not really designed to be an open community. They are designed for individuals to create their own little private groups and hide from all the other little private groups as a standard. A messaging/file sharing app will be the same thing.
As where a forum is all inclusive to all logged in. It is primarily a public square. But each forum in here is basically a website of it's own. In fact, the controls in the back all have to be set for each and every forum separately just like they were each their own website. But they are all part of the one timelessauthors/ public square.
Now if private circles were to form in the background by PM it would be like a messaging app. As where posting and replying to the board is public and all inclusive. What I am after is all inclusive if everyone has the common client. Basically a private internet with all the bells and whistles like the current indexed internet. Geminispace is this. It is actually a common internet of it's own. It has it's own common indexing and URL scheme that is searchable. It is a common place with a common standard script language to host personal websites on personal servers just like Usenet was back in the dial up days.
But it is now easy to install and set up this side bet internet for the average user compared to Usenet. Make it too complicated and you have lost the average user before you even start and it will die except for five techy users. Gemini is a one click install for both windows and Ubuntu flavor Linux and you have access to a whole separate decentralized public internet of it's own aside from the indexed WWW/HTTP protocols. It really is a whole internet of it's own with Blogs, BBS forums, Wikis, Image galleries, inline images, Search engines, Chat, Email, Games, prebuilt servers, sample website scripts to copy for your self hosting of your own sites, Etc.
I can't repeat it enough... You will probably never truly understand until you install it and go play with it personally. It is Usenet 2.0 but with modern encrypted security. It is very cool stuff already to go without needing to be techy to make it work.
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